John E Davis Interview

John E Davis II is a spiritual teacher who passed away in 1984 , leaving behind an audiotaped interview and a few poems that appeared in a TAT Journal shortly after his passing. I resurrected that interview for this month’s podcast because it’s refreshingly far removed from the increasingly homogeneous mass of spiritual teachings on the market.

John Davis II

Though the audio recording shows its age, you can still detect the power behind the words of John E Davis. It’s a power that builds throughout the recording, culminating in the reading of several of Davis’ poems. “It’s not great poetry,” he says, but his voice passes a message.

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Selected Links and Topics from this Episode:

  • My special request for all listeners to consider supporting the TAT Foundation’s new center. Check out the photos and make a donation on the TAT Homing Ground page.
  • Einstein’s Space and Van Gogh’s Sky. Circa 1983, John Davis’ top recommendation addressing the conflict between science and spirituality.
  • “I saw more in that vision than I’ll ever be able to tell,” Davis references this saying from the book Black Elk Speaks.
  • Davis discusses the degenerative brain damage that led to homelessness, and his losing his license to practice law.
  • “All my life, I have infrequently, frequented graveyards. It’s a place of solitude.”
  • The difference between a “scuffler” and a “bum.”
  • “You don’t have a year to live. You’re ready for the box.” Pronouncement from Davis’ doctor.
  • “There’s one thing about the desert — you risk meeting God.”
  • “I, a stranger and afraid, in a world I never made,” Davis quoting the English poet A. E. Housman in “The Laws of God, The Laws of Man.”
  • “Zorba the Greek is one of my heroes.” “The flame burned in as strong in him an in any writer,” referring to author Nikos Kazantzakis’ Zorba the Greek. His Odyssey: A modern sequel, is the “greatest poem of the 20th century.”
  • “I began to get a sense of other — something other than my own personality.”
  • John E Davis repeatedly mentions how the crew of the tv show That’s Incredible magically captured the feeling of his spiritual revelation in the graveyard. If only I could find that episode!
  • “I’m trying to talk to your nervous system, not your cerebral hemispheres.”
  • Maurice Bucke’s Cosmic Consciousness — “Excellent. There’s are things in there I just nod [in agreement].”
  • “I wrote a book, Out of Darkness,” from which Davis reads several poems in this recording. Despite searching, I’ve never located this book.
  • “Much of what I’ve been able to do after this experience is not to project so much.”
  • “For tomorrow’s hero the battle is fought within.”
  • “Follow your fascinations.”
  • “What’s important is that man in his soul goes into the abyss, goes into darkness, into death, finds something, comes out with it.”
  • “You’ve got today, now. And when you live in that here and now, a certain centering takes place, then anything can happen. That’s the experience, and if you look for it you’ll find it. Or, as you’ll soon find out, you don’t find it. God finds you.”
  • “Engross yourself with the paradox; with the pairs of opposites.”
  • Recommends Joseph Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces and Myths to Live By.
  • Jean Houston – one of the top twenty most interesting people in the world.
  • Davis says if one’s voice has a certain resonance, then they can communicate something more than just words.
  • “We are the leaves on a tree.”
  • “In the long run, only the impossible happens.”
  • “Reality always leaves the experts far behind.”
  • “Using the old myths and symbols keeps your self from getting wrapped up in thinking you thought this up.”
  • “If I was a man your age, I’d carry two coins in my pocket. One saying the world was made for me and me alone. That is true! It is. It’s waitin’ just for you. I’m serious! And I’d carry another one that says I’m but dust and ashes. And that’s true.”
  • “Remember that the supreme arbiter, the judge, is your own soul’s opinion. Always.”
  • “When you’re truly meditating is when your eyes listen.”

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Joel Morwood Interview

Joel Morwood is the spiritual director of the Center for Sacred Sciences in Eugene, Oregon. For over 30 years, he’s helped guide seekers on the spiritual path through his many talks, essays, and books, as well as helped fashion a body of teachings that calls upon the great mystical traditions.

Joel Morwood
Joel Morwood, photo by by Jennifer W Knight

It was 2017 when I first reached out to Joel Morwood for an interview. I was told he was busy writing a book and not available until the following year. Forward to 2020 when I finally followed up with him. It was worth the wait. Honest, self-deprecating, insightful, I count Joel Morwood as a “win” in the world of spiritual teachers.

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  • Listen to the interview on iTunesStitcher, or Google Play.
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  • Or watch on YouTube.
  • As a thank you for visiting, enjoy free shipping and get a signed copy of my book Subtraction: The Simple Math of Enlightenment for only $12.95.
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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Selected Links and Topics from this Episode:

  • My special request for all listeners to consider supporting the TAT Foundation’s new center. Check out the photos and make a donation on the TAT Homing Ground page.
  • For more of Joel’s background, see his interview on BATGAP.
  • Giving up on the spiritual path – kenosis – the dark night of the soul.
  • The value of precepts.
  • Practices designed to destroy the spiritual practice itself.
  • Joel Morwood’s time with Franklin Merrell-Wolff in Lone Pine.
  • Joel’s spiritual autobiography: Naked Through the Gate.
  • On the surprising number of students at the Center for Sacred Science who have woken up.
  • “For the spiritual path to work, you really got to put all your eggs in one basket.” If you don’t have that passion, fine, just keep at it and you may get it.
  • The Way of Selflessness – a practical guide to enlightenment that takes core teachings from many traditions come together to make a complete path to awakening. Joel Morewood considers this book the introduction to his teachings.
  • Effort versus non-effort on the spiritual path, giving up spiritual practices versus reaching the point where you can’t do them, “who” surrenders? See Joel’s article “To Practice or Not to Practice” for more.
  • Joel’s book on preparing for death is Through Death’s Gate: A Guide to Selfless Dying.
  • Whether any of Merrell-Wolff’s students became enlightened, and a few stories from Joel’s time with him.
  • When I asked Joel if he had any favorite spiritual films, he couldn’t think of any, but later sent a note that Zorba the Greek, starring Anthony Quinn is one he often references. “Although Zorba’s not enlightened, he exemplifies the freedom and passion for life that comes from practicing true detachment, as opposed to a sterile, pretend kind.”
  • Reach Joel Morwood at centerforsacredsciences.org.

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Bob Fergeson Interview

Bob Fergeson, author of The Listening Attention and Dark Zen: A Guru on the Bayou, is a spiritual teacher who focuses on the nuts and bolts of spiritual seeking while also conveying with his presence the ineffable message of Reality. Hopefully this Bob Fergeson interview offers a taste of both.

In this episode with Bob Fergeson, we discuss the emotional traumas and “knots” which can block one’s ability to access the Listening Attention. Bob offers tips and techniques for releasing these knots and freeing this blocked energy.

I hope you enjoy this episode and want to give a special thanks to those of you who’ve become monthly sponsors.  See the Supporter Options below for more info. on that.  Please feel free to leave comments or send an email with the contact form.  I always appreciate hearing your thoughts.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Selected Links and Notes from this Episode:

  • My special request for all listeners to consider supporting the TAT Foundation’s new center. Check out the photos and make a donation on the TAT Homing Ground page.
  • To learn more of Bob Fergeson’s story, read The Listening Attention and watch Mountain High.
  • Intuition defined. [5:15]
  • “You can think of the ego as the manager, but it has to understand it’s not the owner.” Quote by Pulyan [9:15]
  • How to practice meditation with the Listening Attention and address emotional traumas. [14:30]
  • Richard Rose’s meditation pamphlet. [20:00]
  • What to do if you can’t think your way out of an emotional pattern. [22:30]
  • The development of a “practical ego system.” [25:45]
  • Commitment quote by W.H. Murray. [28:45]
  • The spiritual teacher/student “thing.” What’s most effective? [30:45]
  • What is enlightenment? [35:30]
  • Dreamwork as a way of processing emotional material. [45:30]
  • What is the discovery of awareness? A mental trick or a change of being? [55:00]
  • Bob becoming the teacher-in-residence at the new TAT Center. [59:30]
  • What is the value of working with a spiritual group? [1:03:45]
  • “Confrontation” as a method of group work. [1:06:45]
  • The book A River Runs Through It. [1:12:30]
  • Bob’s recommended books: Maurice Nicoll’s Commentaries, Roy Masters’ How The Mind Can Keep You Well.
  • “We all have to get back to where we started, from where we are. [1:21:00]
  • Reach Bob at MysticMissal.org.

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Dr. Richard Howlin on Joseph Sadony

I credit Joseph Sadony with inspiring me to explore the realm of intuition and giving a taste of the difference between an emotion that is a reaction to a thought, and a thought that is a reaction to a feeling. Every so often, I dust off my copy of Gates of the Mind and get a new clue on my seemingly endless quest to live as an “open gate.” While I can’t do an interview with Josephy Sadony, I’m always curious about those who are familiar with him.

Joseph Sadony interview
Joseph Sadony in his study

Richard Howlin is a clinical developmental psychologist who specializes in autism who also happens to be a fan of Joseph Sadony. In this episode, we discuss how Dr. Howlin discovered Joseph Sadony, his efforts to help preserve Sadony’s legacy, and what he’s learned from his studies of Sadony.

I hope you enjoy this episode and want to give a special thanks to those of you who’ve become monthly sponsors.  See the Supporter Options below for more info. on that.  Please feel free to leave comments or send an email.  I always appreciate hearing your thoughts.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Selected Links and Notes from this Episode:

  • My special request for all listeners to consider supporting the TAT Foundation’s new center. Check out the photos and make a donation on the TAT Homing Ground page.
  • Dr. Howlin’s encounter with a patient with paranormal abilities. [4:15]
  • The observation that discussion of paranormal activity is more prevalent in England than the U.S. [7:30]
  • The limits to the causal, mechanistic training of psychology and how reading Josephy Sadony has made Dr. Howlin a better psychologist. [9:45]
  • Teaching clients to step out of the stream of thoughts via meditation. [13:15]
  • Distinguishing between a true feeling and a false feeling. [16:30]
  • Emphasizing the left hemisphere at the expense of the right hemisphere. [19:45]
  • Sadony’s book The Human Radio which lists all of the premonitions Sadony had and is one of Dr. Howlin’s favorites. It’s available on the Valley of the Pines website. [43:00]
  • The Valley of the Pines has fallen into disrepair. [45:30]
  • Dr. Howlin’s favorite film: Random Harvest [50:15]
  • One of Dr. Howlin’s favorite books is Thomas Moore’s Care of the Soul. [51:15]
  • Reach Dr. Howlin at RichardHowlin.com.

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Maury Lee Interview

The tagline on Maury Lee’s website reads ” Sixty-nine year old male, expressing non duality, realization, by the grace of God.” The simplicity, yet depth, of that line is a good summation of Maury Lee.

Maury was recommended to me by Michael Casari, and I found him to be an otherwise quiet soul who became obsessed with finding the truth of his ultimate nature.

I hope you enjoy this episode and want to give a special thanks to those of you who’ve become monthly sponsors.  See the Supporter Options below for more info. on that.  Please feel free to leave comments or send an email.  I always appreciate hearing your thoughts.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Selected Links and Notes from this Episode:

  • Quick Note: For more information on the TAT Foundation’s November event featuring Bob Cergol, Anima Pundeer, and Art Ticknor, visit Closing Doors.
  • Charlie Hayes – race car driver who became a spiritual teacher.
  • Needing both an intellectual and experiential understanding of enlightenment.
  • You Are the World by Krishnamurti.
  • The importance of trying to feel the space from which an author writes.
  • Being a “householder” while on the spiritual pursuit.
  • Richard Rose’s Albigen Papers.
  • Gestalt Therapy of Fritz Pearls and dream work.
  • The Primal Scream by Arthur Janov.
  • The necessity of seeing your psychological blocks.
  • “The biggest obstacle is that it couldn’t happen to me. ~Robert Wolfe
  • Reading Franklin Merrell-Wolff for fun.
  • People in America can’t distinguish between what they want and what they need.
  • Casablanca – an example of one person standing up against what is not right.
  • Reach Maury Lee at Enlightenment For No One.

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