The Finders

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The Finders were a relatively obscure spiritual group based in Washington, D.C. I was originally led to them when I asked John Wren-Lewis‘ opinion on spiritual groups worth visiting in the United States. The Finders originated in the early 1970s (known as The Seekers in those days) under the direction of Marion Pettie. A search of the web turned up a handful of reports that Pettie and The Finders were a front for CIA operations, plus some suspicions of child abuse and pornography — all and all, not very encouraging.

I called the phone number given by Wren-Lewis and got an answering machine message. What I heard was a rambling, non-sensical message interspersed with electronic tones. Apparently, it was a coded message. I left my name and number and mentioned Wren-Lewis as my referral. As soon as I mentioned Wren-Lewis, someone picked up the phone.

The Finder I spoke with was a pleasant enough fellow, just rather vague. He said people came to the group for various reasons, such as needing work, and that they traveled all over the world on business. Pettie was not a guru, but he did organize things. When I asked if Pettie was enlightened, he said Pettie predicted his date of “entrance into knowledge” to be 2004. I was invited to stop by their location in D.C. “Go inside, ring the gong, and someone will let you in.” Yeah, sure thing buddy, and I’ll probably never be seen again, either.

By this point, I just wanted off the phone. Needless to say, I didn’t take The Finders up on their invitation to visit. I don’t know what they are up to, but there is something rotten in the state of Denmark. My theory is that Pettie iss a rogue CIA agent who infiltrated the guru movement of the 1970s. Eventually, he convinced himself he really was a guru. Now, he and his students travel the world as spies for hire. It would make a good movie, wouldn’t it?

If anyone out there has the inside scoop on The Finders, please let me know. I found their secrecy worrisome and do not recommend them. One of these days, I’m going to ask John Wren-Lewis why he recommended them to me.

2004 Update: I heard from John Wren-Lewis that Pettie truly predicted his date of “entrance into knowledge.” He said Pettie died in June 2004. I found a newspaper article, though, that says Pettie died in 2003.

2016 Update: As near as I can tell, The Finders are finished. Whatever was left of the group dispersed with Pettie’s death.

If you insist on investigating this strangeness for your self, here are a few links, updated as of 2020:

An interview with Marion Pettie

Finders Keeper

A Freethinkers’ Haven

20 thoughts on “The Finders”

    1. I met Marion Pettie as long ago as 1975 when a psychiatrist he knew let me stay in his house in Alexandria, Va. (a suburb of D.C.) for free. A teenaged friend of mine had traveled around the U.S. with them in a bus, the doc’s 4 daughters and his hyperactive pre-school aged son; and a self-proclaimed ‘psychic’ in his early 30s who was having an affair with the doc’s 14 year old daughter (with his approval). The doc had a television show in his early years, but but by the time I met him he was simply living the life of a pot-smoking hippie, with an alcoholic Wife, and their oldest 14-year-old Daughter was taking care of the rest of the kids. Nothing else seemed to be going on in the house, but one day Marion Pettie showed up to talk to the doc. When he found out I was genuinely a student of the Mysteries he took an instant dislike to me. By now I have been a member of 4 different Magical/Mystical Orders and have the opinion that the Finders was nothing but nonsense in that field. I had never heard of the Finders, but am currently at work on a book with a co-author (knowledgeable and well-respected) and when I once mentioned the doc and my experience with him, he asked me with surprise “You know. . . .?” mentioning the doc by name. That startled me, and when I mentioned Marion Pettie it startled him! He sent me a photo of the doc by computer, and it was indeed the same man. I had never heard of the Finders before, but my co-author referred me to two websites: and along with those above, it may give you researchers some help.

  1. The Finders are categorically NOT finished. I have it on very good authority that upon Marion’s death the group came under the direction of… A trusted member of the organisation. Its work continues to this day. PLEASE do not spread false information. The Finders can easily be found and are willing to COMMENT.

    Francis Inder.

    1. The finders were bought out, and taken over by Epstein, the clinton cartel, the communist democrat deep state, and the israeli government. The finders are alive and well, and continue to operate under FBI, and CIA protection.

    2. Greetings and salutations. I hope this message finds you well.

      I’m currently trying to conduct some research on the Finders to find an honest explanation into the group’s belief systems and doctrine.

      Is there any way to contact you outside of this forum? Thank you.

  2. Heavens:

    Your story is fascinating, but a bit confusing. You are saying a psychiatrist (the Doc) allowed you to stay at his house while he was not there, right, not that Pettie allowed the Doc to stay at one of Pettie’s houses, and you were staying there with the Doc and family? So the Doc was not also staying in the house where you lived rent free at the same time you were there, is how I was reading that. Your teenage friend friend around the U.S. with the Finders, or only with the Doc and his family?

    If Pettie visited the house to see the Doc, please clarify more of those details. Was the Doc not there, and then you instead talked to Pettie? But then why would Pettie be surprised you knew the man he was trying to visit? Why would it surprise him at all if anyone knew this psychiatrist? Why would the psychiatrist, who you indicated was friends with Pettie, be surprised when you mentioned Pettie? Afterall, the man was already visiting him.

    Finally, it sounds like you are saying you exchanged emails with Pettie at that point. Did you keep in touch. Are all of the above details included in the subject of the book you are working on? When do you anticipate being done with that? Thanks, if you can clarify any of the above.

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